I doubt a common villager or sideline rebel would have access to a lightsaber. The fact that they are lightsaber resistent means that the First Order(which was hunting down Jedi at this time, and still is) is preparing their soldiers should they come in contact with such a foe. Besides, point a gun or a stun rey to someones face and it'll calm him down one way or another, if it has to get messy. Weirdly enough the old Empire didn't use RIOT Stormtroopers and they had tons of group control problems themselves. RIOT Stormtroopers.the name implies they are used for riot control, not fighting Jedi, the fact that their weapons are strong enough to withstand lightsabers are just that, durability. Yeah, but until they actually shown to fight Jedi, there's no real need to say they are trained for such. You'll either ignore this, deny this or come up with another half-baked counter like every other TFA lowballer I debated against. Not like I expect any of this to have an impact on you.
He's, again, at least on an even playing field with Jarrus.įorce powers? Kylo's easily the better telepathic, the better telekinetic and is more versatile. In terms of strength he displayed some dominance over Finn who's managed to casually knock over, incapacitate and disarm people with his physical strength. Durability: Ren.Īs far as speed goes, outpacing Finn(who was capable of shooting down several Republic soldiers before they can even properly aim at him, speedblitzed two Stormtroopers trained to face Jedi and dodged close range explosions and grenades) in the physical/emtional wreck of a state he is would mark him at least on par with Kanan, if not above. Kanan would've bent over after being shot by Chewbacca's blaster, if not outright died. Kanan destroying Kylo in any physical aspect? Don't make me laugh. I'd wager Kylo stomping Finn(in the top 1% of the First Order Stormtroopers that were trained to fight Jedi) while emotionally hindered(because of killing his father) and physically damaged(by something that tore through Stormtrooper armor and destroyed several rocks with one hit) and killing all of the Jedi Padawans and Knights of Luke's Order with the aid of only a few Knights of Ren and being called as nigh-unstoppable in battle marks him as the better duelist. Time for another counter-argument to the Kylo lowballing that has withstood the test of time as nobody so far has managed to dispute it.
HA! Kanan destroys him in every aspect, the only thing Kylo arguably has is the force.
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